• Pons_Aelius
      2•9 months ago

      The narcissist’s prayer

      That didn’t happen.
      And if it did, it wasn’t that bad.
      And if it was, that’s not a big deal.
      And if it is, that’s not my fault.
      And if it was, I didn’t mean it.
      And if I did, you deserved it.

  • PugJesus
    4•9 months ago

    “Settlers aren’t civilians.”

    Like, my God, how fucking messed up do you have to be to believe that about an entire country of people, many of which committed only the crime of being born there? Tankie apologia for Hamas is every bit as vile as the hardline ethnonationalists in Israel.

    • Nougat
      -4•9 months ago

      I think you might be confusing “settlers” (people who decided to live in a place) with “settlers” (people who decided to live in a place where other people used to live before the government rolled in with bulldozers, destroyed their homes, and displaced them).

      • PugJesus
        3•9 months ago

        No. I’m really not. They’re using ‘Settlers’ to mean all non-Arabs in Israel…

        • Nougat
          -3•9 months ago

          They probably are, considering the context. Attacking a music festival is far away from attacking a place where the Israeli government bulldozed Palestinian homes so that hard line Israeli citizens could take it over; why bring up “settlers aren’t civilians”?

          While I don’t at all condone indiscriminate attacks against innocent people, I can also sympathize with the frustration when Western foreign powers say “Here, go set up your ethnostate on this piece of land which we don’t really have the authority to give you, and where people already live. Oh, and if those people already didn’t like you, they’re going to really not like you now. You’re going to treat them as second class non-citizens? Sure, we’ll look the other way. By the way, this land is not only really important to your religion, it’s also really important to two other major world religions, and none of you like each other very much at all. What could go wrong?”

          Russia is invading Ukraine, and it is undoubtedly right to be on the side of Ukraine working to eject them. The state of Israel just appeared one day, and has been pushing and shoving Palestinians ever since. Killing innocent people, parading prisoners through the streets - that’s not the way to fight back. But I cannot fault Palestinians for wanting to fight.