• @SleezyDizasta@lemmy.world
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    -16 months ago

    Marxism and Fascism are sister ideologies that are similar in both theory and in practice. This moronic idea that Fascism is the polar opposite of Marxism is literally Soviet propaganda that they pushed after WWII to justify their tyranny, massacres, and censorship. Which is ironic because this what they accuse the Fascists of doing. It becomes more ironic that the Soviets and the Nazis were quite literally allies who signed the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact where they agreed to non aggression, greater cooperation, and to invade and divide countries together.

    Marxists are Fascists are two sides of the same evil coin. Liberalism is the polar opposite to both of these shitty ideologies. You’re not the good guys.

    • @StinkySocialist@lemmy.ml
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      -26 months ago

      Congratulations you said the dumbest thing I’ve seen all day!

      Are you going to ignore how Hitler first killed the Socialist have you ever heard that poem that has the line when they came for the Jews I said nothing for I was not a Jew and when they came for me there was no one else left go reread that poem and tell me who the first people they took where?

      Hitler used to refer to socialism as Jewish bolshivism. Do you know the Nazis killed more Soviet soldiers than any other country soldiers and that Soviets killed more Nazis than any other country killed Nazis.

      Both my grandfathers were American soldiers during World War II one of them went to prisoner of Work Camp in Nazi Germany do you want to know who Freedom the f****** Soviets.

      Do you know what country marched on Berlin and ended Nazi Germany?

      You’re fucking ignorant. Horseshoe theory is propaganda the US came up with during the Cold War. Read a book

      • @SleezyDizasta@lemmy.world
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        Are you going to ignore how Hitler first killed the Socialist have you ever heard that poem that has the line when they came for the Jews I said nothing for I was not a Jew and when they came for me there was no one else left go reread that poem and tell me who the first people they took where?

        It’s not secret that Marxists and Fascists hated each other. Then again they hate everyone who isn’t from the right groups and doesn’t entirely agree with them. Still doesn’t change the fact that the Soviets and the Nazis did in fact sign an alliance that led to them invading Poland together… You know, the thing that led France and the UK to declare war on Hitler and officially begin WWII.

        Do you know the Nazis killed more Soviet soldiers than any other country soldiers and that Soviets killed more Nazis than any other country killed Nazis.

        That’s stupid. Of course there were going to be more deaths from both of them against each other because more soliders fought on the Eastern front than any other front. The Soviet Union and Germany were only two powers on that front. Them exchanging more deaths doesn’t mean what you think it does.

        Both my grandfathers were American soldiers during World War II one of them went to prisoner of Work Camp in Nazi Germany do you want to know who Freedom the f****** Soviets.

        Okay, but how this detract from the fact that the Soviets having their own work camps? The Soviet gulags were infamous. They had somewhere between 10 and 20 million prisoners between 1930 and 1953, and about 1 to 2 million were killed.

        Do you know what country marched on Berlin and ended Nazi Germany?

        Go to Berlin or ANY Eastern European country and ask them how the Soviet experience was. You’ll find that most people see the Soviets and the Nazis in the same light. They weren’t liberators, but ruthless conquerors. The Eastern European countries quickly realized when the Soviets rolled through that they weren’t freed, but rather “under new management”.

        You’re fucking ignorant. Horseshoe theory is propaganda the US came up with during the Cold War. Read a book

        I don’t think you understand that the Nazis ≠ Fascism, the Soviets ≠ Marxism, and the Soviets and Nazis fighting each other doesn’t make the ideologies opposites. Mussolini, the founder of fascism, was literally a life long Marxist before he created fascism as alternative to the flaws he saw with the socialists at the time. Fascism and Marxism are quite literally sister ideologies.

        This idea that these two ideologies are polar opposites stems from Soviet propaganda post war that they used to justify their tyranny and atrocities. It was a tool to keep people in line and purge out opposition. The reality is that they’re more similar than different.