• @Blackmist@feddit.uk
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    43 months ago

    Proudly perma-banned from Reddit for taking the piss out of the far right.

    Proudly had comments deleted from lemmy.ml for taking the piss out of the far left.

    Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.

    • @narp@feddit.de
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      123 months ago

      Please don’t call them “the far left”. They’re just pretending, in reality they’re authoritarians defending Russia, China and Iran, while shitting on the West at every opportunity.

        • r3df0x ✡️✝☪️A
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          23 months ago

          Alt left covers way too many factions of people that it could apply to. You have disaffected liberals, anti-woke progressives, left-lib Joe Rogan types, tankies and MAGA communists. MAGAcoms are just tankies who vote for populist Republicans because Bolsheviks and Republicans happen to align on many/social cultural issues and support using the state to crack down on what they consider moral depravity.

  • @WolfLink@lemmy.ml
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    The rules end up there because people complain about things and then the mods implement a rule to ban the things people complain about. Sometimes they let the community vote on it. It does end up being the vocal minority who the rules cater to sometimes.

    • @Katana314@lemmy.world
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      23 months ago

      I mean…there’s very good reasons to respect the wishes of minority groups sometimes (not always). It’s the reason they wrote the “First they came for the communists” poem.

    • TJA!
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      23 months ago

      And they have to be more or less vague to give the moderators room to decide if the rule breaker did it by accident or is just an asshole. Trolls will do anything to walk the fine line between not breaking the rules and being as annoying as possible.

  • @pjwestin@lemmy.world
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    These were the complaints I heard about mods before the API debacle. After all the mods quit or got their 3rd party tools nuked, it was all complaints about repost bots not being removed. I’ve never been a mod, but you couldn’t pay me enough to babysit thousands of angry dorks, much less get me to do it for free.

  • mistrgamin
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    the admins let people like akwardtheturtle have free rein over hundreds thousands of subs until they protested the API stuff

      • @EvilLootbox@lemmy.world
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        43 months ago

        Awhile back yeah. I saw a post on reddit back then of their post-ban discord meltdown… it was exactly what you’d expect

            • @jaybone@lemmy.world
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              I feel like this problem is just part of the reddit/Lemmy model. 15 or 20 years ago, on an internet with different forums under different domain names on different hosts owned by independent admins, no one would ever be mod of 1000 different forums.

              • r3df0x ✡️✝☪️A
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                The problem is now that people don’t want to go to obscure forums or take the time to register accounts on dozens of websites. Everyone wants to be part of huge social media silos. Things like Oauth account creation might make that easier when users can do things like “sign in with Google.” Federation through sites like Lemmy could make things better since one account can access every other instance, but I don’t see normies ever adopting federated platforms unless each platform has an instance that becomes “The” instance where normies can enter “Lemmy” or “Mastodon” into Google and have that instance be the first result.

                The world elites have a huge interest in keeping people in centralized silos because it makes it much easier to control the population when they’re gathered around only a few websites.

  • @Zozano@lemy.lol
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    This happened to me.

    On the “Mario Kart Tour” sub, I made a meme during the games “Election” event. I made vague but obvious comparisons to Trump/Mario Vs Biden/Luigi.

    Everyone in the comments were having fun, there was no complaining, and the post even reached the homepage.

    Then the fucking mods deleted my shit and pissed the community off. I got universal support and the sub was filled with posts requesting the mods to undelete my meme.

    In the end, the mods were cunts.

    Fucking clowns.

    • Lemminary
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      I’ve definitely seen some emotional mods on Lemmy who relish in throwing gas at the fire before a ban and posts from people complaining about them. Hell, I have experienced it first hand. And it doesn’t look like anything is ever done about abuse. The sad thing is that Lemmy can change this but doesn’t look like it wants to.

      “Post removed. Reason: Rule 1” No other explanation given and nobody oversees the moderation. The standard is on the floor. I’d be more than happy to volunteer if there was a auditing system in place. We to police the police, per se, and do so in a fair and transparent way.

      • IninewCrow
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        23 months ago

        It’s human nature … and it’s also politics and marketing

        In the non political communities, the people with the most time take the opportunity to moderate. Unfortunately having time on your hands is not an indicator of wealth, ability or status. A percentage of these people are just internet addicted individuals that spend all their lives online. And a percentage of these people see moderating as way to give them power over others.

        The other dynamic I see happening is politics and marketing and propaganda. In the political communities, important messages need to be pushed by state organizations or groups to push a message or react to opposing views. We like to think that we are a tiny independent bubble in Lemmy but the more popular it becomes, the more professional and dedicated marketers will migrate into the service.

        It’s all human nature … the human nature to be in control, to have control or to exert control.

        And like you say, the only way to moderate it all is to moderate ourselves and others on a continual basis.

        “The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.” -Thomas Jefferson

        We will never achieve a free form social media that can be open, inclusive and safe for everyone … we have to realise that we have to always be fighting and advocating for one, otherwise we will always run the risk of giving room to those who want control over everyone and everything.

  • capital
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    243 months ago

    Thank gods that doesn’t happen here. Right?

    Right guys?

  • 𝒎𝒂𝒏𝒊𝒆𝒍
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    i remember posting in /r/boneappletea a screenshot where a well known brand made a mistake, they deleted it because it was against a rule saying there should be no identifying informations, like people could raid poor multi million brand or something, also the sub was notorious for posting speech to text errors without batting an eye

    on the other hand i’ve been banned on lemmy twice, fist time was because my rather sexist comment, but second time was because i said something about Uighurs genocide in China, (guess what instance was that?) also both bans were issued without any warning, completely against their CoC

        • @vegantomato@lemmy.world
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          It’s reality. Men who want to be like women, and vice versa, are finding out the hard way.

          I’d rather be called a bigot than denying reality to satisfy the desires of fetishists online and the medical industry.

          Imo, the biggest tragedy are all the kids that get groomed into undergoing “treatment” for gender dysphoria. Like puberty blockers and even surgery.

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              You are accusing me of being biased, meanwhile these articles are extremely biased.

              I already elaborated on this in previous posts, but the gist of it is that you cannot build a society with all its various systems without having a practical conceptualization of what humans are. This is why your idea of gender-nonbinary, which is impractical to accept wholesale, will never go beyond the bedroom, niche parts of the medical industry, and maybe some transtoilets here and there. 99% of the world will still run based on the concept of two sexes, because it aligns better with reality, because it’s what’s practical.

              In times of prosperity, you can afford to play around with these ideologies (at the expense of some boys and girls), but once that prosperity ends due to war or similarly unfortunate events, all these ideas go out the window!

              • @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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                You are accusing me of being biased, meanwhile these articles are extremely biased.

                A bias in favor of scientifically accurate reality isn’t a bad thing. Bigotry is.

                the gist of it is that you cannot build a society with all its various systems without having a practical conceptualization of what humans are. This is why your idea of gender-nonbinary, which is impractical to accept wholesale, will never go beyond the bedroom, niche parts of the medical industry, and maybe some transtoilets here and there. 99% of the world will still run based on the concept of two sexes, because it aligns better with reality, because it’s what’s practical.

                Absolute nonsense from start to finish.

                Just because you’re used to things working a certain way doesn’t mean that it has to be that way. Similar arguments have been used against things like abolishing slavery, women entering the workforce and the concept of secular education.

                Turns out that those things ENRICH society rather than break it. Just like allowing people the gender identity that feels natural to them and respecting that reality.

                In times of prosperity, you can afford to play around with these ideologies (at the expense of some boys and girls), but once that prosperity ends due to war or similarly unfortunate events, all these ideas go out the window!

                Again, same old “society can only work if we don’t change it to be more open towards people different from me” bigoted bullshit that has been spouted since marginalized people first started getting any rights.

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                  Just because you’re used to things working a certain way doesn’t mean that it has to be that way.

                  True.

                  Similar arguments have been used against things like abolishing slavery, women entering the workforce and the concept of secular education.

                  Slavery as it existed in the 1700s wasn’t abolished because the rulers had an epiphany and realized the errors of their ways. It was (mostly, not entirely) abolished for practical reasons. Institutionalized slavery still exists. You have prison labor in countries like the US. We also see outsourced slavery to more degenerate countries like China, where they do have actual slaves or laborers who are slaves in every way but name. Have you ever heard of slave free cotton, or slave free cocoa? These words exist because slavery is not gone. Companies and us consumers around the world are indirectly benefiting from slave labor till this day. I have to look long and hard to find stuff that are more ethically produced, you should know that it’s hard. We also see sex slavery, which intersects with the porn industry. Some of the women in porn could be trafficking victims. I wonder if liberals who goon to porn understand that.

                  Women working corporate jobs has brought a lot of economical advantages, no doubt. They pay taxes, they increase productivity, they saturate the job market, etc. But it came at the expense of the family unit, and birth-rates. You have a rising percentage of older people needing care, and a less percentage of younger people to care for and replace them. This is one reason why many western countries are inviting immigrants, to keep things sustainable. But for how long?

                  Women working is not a new phenomena. Child-rearing, taking care of the husband, taking care of the home, and doing everything a housewife does is a full-time job. It’s an honorable job. You seem to have no issue with a woman being obedient to a boss in a corporation, and keeping a smile at all times lest she gets fired. But if it’s her husband that she obeys, you suddenly get your panties in a twist.

                  Just like allowing people the gender identity that feels natural to them and respecting that reality.

                  It’s so natural in fact, that we have an unprecedented number of “trans-youths”. I wonder why. Maybe previous generations were just too scared to get out of the closet. Or maybe, it is because young boys and girls are being indoctrinated.

                  Again, same old “society can only work if we don’t change it to be more open towards people different from me” bigoted bullshit that has been spouted since marginalized people first started getting any rights.

                  Go and tell that to Ukraine.

      • @TheDoozer@lemmy.world
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        Somebody posted a picture of a Harry Potter book burning in what I believe was a bird bath.

        I commented that it was ironic that two groups so diametrically opposed as those that don’t like shitty TERFs, and crazy Fundamentalists that not only believe magic is real, but also Sinful, would protest the books in that way for such completely different reasons.

        The person posting said something about “hurr durr mah both sides,” some people corrected them that I wasn’t saying they were the same, just that it was bizarre that they agree on something at all, much less that… and then the mod removed my comment (I believe the same that wrote the comment responding to mine).

        So… sometimes mods here can show poor reading comprehension and remove things for no reason as well.

  • @suction@lemmy.world
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    The Nazis always chose the biggest losers of a neighbourhood to act as „block wardens“, I.e. snitches who’d report to them what the neighbours were talking about…