DoorDash now warns you that your food might get cold if you don’t tip::The app-based delivery service is alerting customers that drivers may not take their order in a timely manner if there is no tip included upfront.
People who waste their money on DoorDash deserve to lose it. Learn to make your own food or pick it up your damn self. At least order from places that do their own delivery.
You’re acting like that is an option for everyone and you’re blaming the people who order from DoorDash which is both pointless and ignorant and helps absolutely no one.
Outside of emergency situations where you’re physically unable to go out and your power is out so you cannot cook and have nothing edible without being cooked, there is no reason a food delivery service is necessary. Food can be delivered from grocery stores and can be cooked.
I’d like to just link my other comment but I’ll rewrite my point, there’s a lot of health conditions and other scenarios where someone may be unable to cook or get help in that moment.
If you have the income for it, DoorDash is an amazing option for this in the US. It’s a lot simpler where I live where you can just get ready to eat fresh food from supermarkets and the restaurants deliver things themselves, but people themselves are not to blame for using DoorDash.
If they are unable to prepare meals themselves, how are they getting up and answering the door? You’re describing a very narrow niche that likely doesn’t really exist. The vast vast majority of people who use these services are capable but unwilling to get it themselves.
I don’t support any of these gig-economy services for various reasons, but this isn’t on DoorDash. This is the reality of the situation, and the consumer isn’t being screwed.
My comment is more or less focused on mental health, where there can be huge blockades to go and prepare food and it’s quite common. I do understand that a huge chunk of people are simply unwilling though.
Over here things like delivery is more of a fun thing you do every 2 weeks, and not a common occurrence which is ideally how it should be. I find comments targetting people like the original quite lame as it accomplishes nothing, and the root cause is how corporations and education in the US works.
“Mrrrm, I HAVE to order McDonald’s at DoorDash, I can’t be expected to do for myself as an adult Mrrrrrrrm”
That’s how you sound right now.
Not quite, there’s a lot of health issues and other things that can impact someone’s ability to cook on their own or get help at that current moment. DoorDash is oftentimes great for scenarios like that and the people aren’t to blame.
Mockery instead of trying to think of reasons why my point could be valid is also a very low blow to make.
The order through Door Dash:
- $20
- $2 Tax
- $8 Door Dash Charge
- $6 Initial Tip
- $10 for the Substitution up charge
- $1 Tax for that purchase
- $9 ‘Fuck you’ charge
- $4 Follow Up Tip Total: $60 for your $20 meal you could’ve just gotten your own damn self.
This.
I’ve basically started a Shit List of local restaurants that I simply won’t order from because they do shit like this.
Not just delivery either. If they want to gouge customers like that I’m not getting take out or dining in either.
One of the many reasons I get my own damn food. I’m not paying out the ass for something I could do myself for half the price.
I have never used any of these food delivery services, and I’m pretty sure I never will.
I have younger family members that use it a lot, and I’ve asked how much they spend a month. Holy smokes, I could cook some damn nice meals for what they spend a month - one person has spent as much as a family of 4 would spend on groceries a month. My average home-cooked per-plate cost is about $3.50. Nicer meals (steak) may go to $5 per plate.
It’s understandable occasionally if you’re pushed for time; shit happens. Paying someone to deliver shitty fast food or whatever just because you can’t be bothered to cook makes no sense to me.
It doesn’t take much planning to get started making your own meals. And the more you do it, the bigger your pantry gets with all the pieces and parts you need for other meals. Even if it’s a lot of canned and boxed stuff, that’s a start.
Yeah, I’d rather just cook or even pay for those overpriced prepackaged ingredient packages to cook at home.
Probably healthier too, and lot of stuff at restaurants is prepackaged microwaved stuff anyways.
you’d have to wait until the food gets lukewarm and soggy if you want to compare with them.
DoorDash “tips” are done before your food arrives, not after, and you can’t change them after you order.
They’re not tips, they’re bribes.
Holding your food hostage for tips. lmao. Just pick it up yourself or drive-thru and make it part of your existing commute.
Yeah this is so fucked. Tipping at the vary least should happen after the transaction.
Why can’t people just learn to cook for themselves. It’s a basic life skill. Your body needs food, learn how to make the stuff. It’s not even a hard skill There’s even food you can do low effort and fast. And it’s healthier cuz when you order out you’re consuming so much more salt and sugar than you’re supposed to and it’ll literally rot your organs.
I’ll give you the real answer. Most people are working so much they are exhausted at the end of the day and the thought of doing anything other than resting is even more exhausting. Door Dash will get there eventually with the food meanwhile you rested the entire time AND have food now. Some of us are depressed on top of this which makes us even less motivated to cook or clean or do anything really. People need to work less and have more free time. Then we will see them cook more and take care of themselves more.
This.
I love to cook, it’s something that brings me joy to see myself create delicious meals and feed my family. But my God, after a long day of work and then getting my kid from daycare, only to come home and have to figure out what I can make and then do it is just too much. I’d rather focus my attention on playing with my kid, and coming down from the day, than spending all my time in the kitchen. I’ll make my kid food and then order something for my wife and I afterwards.
We shouldn’t be punished with cold food just because DoorDash/Uber/Skip won’t pay their drivers properly. I can’t always drop 18% (somehow the norm where I live) on top of their already baked in delivery fee, and service fee. Also, tipping as far as I’m concerned is an after-the-fact action. If you exceed your job I’ll tip you, but delivering my food warm and on-time is your job… Why tip when I consistently have late deliveries anyways. I can always pay a premium to get my food first, but that’s just another fee.
There’s no winning here
If you think this is frustrating you’re not alone. This is a trap made by rich and powerful people to keep people in line. You can’t argue if you’re always overworked and tired. When homelessness is the other choice you don’t even get to make a choice 99% of the time. People died to make work less overbearing and it seems we might have to go through this again for any changes.
I feel like dealing with tipping culture is a byproduct of just giving people more time to recover from a weeks work.
Like a 4 day work week for example. Pay adjusted so no one loses money. People have more time to relax and recover from work, actually live their lives. They cook more, and places like DoorDash can’t parasitically siphon money off of people who are just desperate to rest.
I can’t believe I’ve been conditioned to think this is impossible because it helps people too much. Sometimes I hate the U.S. .
I hear you but please understand none of these places have you or your family in mind on nutrition. At the going rate you can start seeing the effects on your body of high sugar and salt as early as your late 40s. Doesn’t matter how much you exercise either. That stuff eats your organs. Diabetes, heart disease, pancreatitis, stomach cancer is just a tip of the iceberg of choices of the lovely shit that is about to greet you for those choices. This is what the people of the ‘growing up on McDonald’s in the 80s” are facing right now. And a lot of them just thought looking lean and exercise was all that took to negate the effects which is bullshit. Exercise only targets fat and caloric intake. It doesn’t negate what overdosing sugar and salt does directly to the organs.
I get that it’s hard but this goes deeper than just convenience. This stuff is really toxic. Literally. Tips aside. Albeit the gouging is pretty fucked up on its own but that should be a hint on how little they care about you. They want your money. They inject salt to make you buy this shit. They don’t care if they kill you and your family over ca$h.
Ah yes, the app for the particularly lazy, maybe that serves as an incentive to move their asses for once and get it themselves
‘Food might get cold’ is a euphemism for getting spat into.
Nah, just that they won’t pick up your order if the driver sees that there’s a real possibility they’ll only get paid $2 to drive your starbucks order across the city.
Porque no los dos?
Which is why tipping culture is turning into extortion.
If my food is not McDonald’s coffee hot…
Just another reason to avoid Door Dash: Best to get off your ass and get food. Better yet: Cook your own food!
You’d be amazed with the number of millennials who need someone to get food for them. One of my friends from high school is a neckbeard who doesn’t work and his parents literally bring all his food into his apartment and he’s rude about it because they interrupt him playing video games.
I know people of all ages who can’t cook.
I am a millennial lol. Not that I don’t use delivery, but going to get food and cooking my own is pretty routine.
Exactly. It’s crazy how quickly this type of services get the “can’t live without it” status. One day people are cooking their own food, calling taxis and walking around and next they will starve to death if someone can’t bring them their BigMac and can’t get anywhere without Uber or electric scooter.
It’s just frustrating because almost all the restaurants that used to have their own delivery drivers now just do Uber or Door Dash
my friends cannot fathom the fact i walk everywhere in my college
im like come walk with me “but its so far” its a 15 minute walk you probably need it.
Nothing wrong with scooters (shout out to !micromobility@lemmy.world), but bikes are better IMO. I agree with the rest of your sentiment though.
I used to order meals sometimes through these kinds of delivery services but not anymore.
At first they were quite good but then they added extra “service fees” and the markup on the food increased, so did the delivery charge, it’s a joke now and I haven’t used them for a long time, and there’s no good reason to, now.
Even when I do tip, and tip well, they now add so many other stops in between my food and my house that it still arrives cold anyway. I’ve largely stopped using them now too. They were convenient during peak pandemic and our newborn phase at home, but running out to grab take out really isn’t the end of the world again now.
I only use them when I’m too swamped to go grab something or cook.
But one again learned to order at least 90 minutes out from when I expect to eat
Just go get the food yourself. Forget these delivery companies.
Underrated comment
It’s definitely not, it’s very recent and rapidly gaining upvotes.
Lazy people are downvoting because they want to waste their money on Door Dash.
People are free to spend their hard earned money on whatever they enjoy, it doesn’t mean they are lazy either.
If someone is rich, then I agree. A millennial or zoomer making between $40-80k doesn’t have the money to be blowing on their unwillingness to leave their house, or even to be going out all the time.
If they want to spend what little disposable income they have on it, they should be free and happy to do so.
I guess, but is it really wise for them to spend it that way?
You’re ignoring the main problem and point of the post here, but you’re also ignoring some people’s needs and how “just go get it” is often not an option. This isn’t a useful comment and it also doesn’t make any discussion.
If you can’t go get the food, eat what you have at home. If you’re not at home, bring something with you to eat later or plan better.
For some it’s often not as simple as just eat what you have at home and that’s often not an option.
Wow, how did people survive before food delivery to your door was commonplace?
Obviously by being forced to either do it anyways, get help or skipping that meal?
We lasted so long without uber eats. We can do it again
We can, but everyone should always have the choice to do what they want, not keep having others tell them what they should or should not do. Whether or not you like these services doesn’t mean others can’t. I don’t care for certain clothing items, it doesn’t mean I should tell people not to wear them or do what they like because it isn’t my choice.
I frequently find food bag have been opened when a doordasher delivers orders. It’s odd because the tracker typically shows the dasher stopping in weird residential areas and parking for extended periods of time.
You know how I know you don’t tip?
Nah, $5 isn’t a bad tip in my area.
Dashers have two options. Most earn by order. DD pays a pittance of about $2 per order, plus customer tips, but drivers get to decide whether to accept or reject any particular order. To make money this way, drivers have to turn over orders fast. The longer the clock ticks, the less they earn per hour.
The other option is “earn by time”, where the driver earns about $12/hr while they are working on a delivery, plus customer tips. DD gives all their non-tipped orders to anyone foolish enough to select “earn by time”. The only way drivers make any money on these is by driving slow and delaying as long as they can. The longer the clock ticks, the less time they spend off the clock, between orders. The longer they park, the better their per-mile revenue.
When OP describes them as parking for extended periods of time in weird residential areas, it indicates the driver is trying to spend extra time active rather than hustling out more orders. Which means they are working on the “earn by time” mode where DD dumps their non-tipped orders.
When they suggest that drivers are regularly providing this specific manner of shitty service, they inadvertantly outed themself as a shitty customer.
The worst part is some lazy restaurants just link to doordash instead of paying proper delivery drivers so you can’t even avoid door dash if you like certain restaurants.
I mean in fairness before these services most restaurants did not have delivery options at all, so I don’t think this is that surprising? It was not long ago that your delivery options in many places were just pizza or Chinese.
Little Ceasers offers delivery and sends it through doordash here. Curious if that is because they don’t want to deal with it or it is somehow cheaper on their end.
Little Ceasers didn’t offer delivery before these apps either though.
Yeah but that’s the problem. They’re essentially outsourcing something they couldn’t afford in the first place so DD becomes the bad guy for not paying their employees instead. Then the customer bitches at the driver’s because the drivers don’t want shitty pay for their work. Stop using DD.
I just don’t go to restaurants that do this or close their eatery to the public because they expect everyone to use DD, haha. Though I mostly just cook at home, restaurant food took a massive nosedive during the pandemic. More expensive, and generally tastes worse. :/
There are more than a handful of places near me that used to have decent delivery but Door Dash etc basically shut them out. They lose business by not being affiliated and not getting exposure, so they get on Door Dash and lose even more business to Door Dash, next thing you know they have no in-house delivery and all the prices on Door Dash are jacked up so they can give Door Dash their take.
‘That’s a really nice and hot meal you’ve got there. It would be a shame if it were to be… how you say… room temperature when it arrived.’
