Streisand effect
Look this is different than pirating a game or bypassing a newspaper paywall. Watching content on YouTube simply costs money to YouTube. It’s not like torrenting a game or movie, where while you haven’t paid for the content, it didn’t cost anything to the owner other than theoretical revenue. And it’s not like bypassing a newspaper paywall, either, where the cost to the newspaper to serve you the story is practically negligible and the real costs are fixed and not related to how many people actually read the story.
Hosting video costs money and nobody can replace YouTube’s massive library or realistically replicate their business model. I mean just look at image/gif hosting sites, they constantly go bust like Photobucket because storing everyone’s pictures forever and for free isn’t not a real business model.
YouTube needs to be paid for its gonna go the way of Photobucket.
Google would never give up on a project!
Let it die. Creators will go elsewhere. We need to shake up the ancien regime a bit
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Corpo shill alert
YouTube doesn’t need to get paid (by the users watching their ads) they get paid through you, the actual product. What you watch what you click on what you search for, these are ALL monitizable. You think Google is protecting your data instead of selling it lmao
Furthermore how much is enough? They gonna keep adding more and more unskipable ads more pre/mid/post rolls, b-b-but the multi fucking billion dollar corpo needs to get pAiD!!!
Grow up
Good luck trying to talk about this with any amount of reason.
I’m a pirate, I understand what I’m doing is defrauding the tos of a mega corporation. I UNDERSTAND that and IM DOING IT ON PURPOSE.
But it seems like most of the people here are just going to hurl insults at you and call you a shill because you laid it out as “this cost money and the business needs money to even do it”. This is how “free” services have always worked. They aren’t a fucking charity.
I don’t like ads so I do everything in my power to not see ads. Once they kill ReVanced and they start banned Google accounts, I’ll just stop using YouTube unless I have a specific tutorial need.
Does that boot taste good or something?
Everything has to be free; I won’t pay a dime. If anyone tries to make money (aka any business), they are evil.
- Lemmy
If you’re using UBlock Origin do the following:
Go to settings. Go to Filter Lists. Click purge all caches. Click update now.
That’s it, this message should disappear entirely.
Adblockers are eventually just going to become undetectable because of this. Adblockers are about to get so much better!
Youtube is squeezing one party really hard while pretending the other party doesn’t owe shit to keep their monopoly. Start charging uploaders. If YouTube needs to up what they’re earning because of things like bandwidth cost and what not make uploaders cover some of that cost. They’re a business making money off of the platform so charge them.
They already are, by monetizing the content they didn’t create, and paying creators just a fraction of the revenue generated.
This is the worst possible take I’ve heard this week, probably this year.
You would fuck over thousands of people, in addition to creating a bar of entry for anyone wanting to post a video or start a channel. Like I genuinely don’t even know where to begin explaining how bad this take is.
My statement was far too broad for it to be “setting a bar of entry”. YouTube is trying to squeeze its viewers for every drop they can without having uploaders and im obviously not talking about the little guy here shoulder any of that cost. Who in your mind is responsible for the cost associated with lets say a Mr Beast video? Is it Mr Beast or is it the viewer? I think it’s both.
Why the hell would someone go to all the trouble of filming and editing a video, which is also not a cheap process, then pay to have people see it?
But I don’t want to pay and I want everything for free! Make somebody else pay for my enjoyment!
Holy crap
Piped is about to get another user
Why wouldn’t they block Piped?
For the past few months, they have been rather aggressive with IP bans for Piped instances, yeah.
Oof
It’s an end of an era. I’ve been on reddit for over a decade, and on youtube for even longer. Crazy to think I might be giving up both of those services within a few months of each other. Feels like the internet is dying. Oh well. Maybe I’ll go back to reading a shitload.
This is only the 3764th post this week…
Is this fake? I thought the term is whitelisted not allowlisted
In recent years there’s been a shift from “white/black list” to “allow/block list” in an effort to avoid the stereotypes associated with those terms. I wouldn’t say it’s the new norm yet, but it’s slowly becoming more popular.
Ah like the master/slave becoming server/client?
I still don’t like allow list though. Block list seems fine. Maybe access list?
Similar to that, yeah, although I think the master/slave thing started earlier. (It’s a bit more blatant, tbf.)
I agree that allowlist doesn’t roll off the tongue quite as nicely, but as long as it makes it obvious what the word means, I’ll go with it.
I feel the use of master/slave to talk about technological concepts took power away from the original conotations of the words and by not using them its actualy making their effect more negative but what would i know.
Yeah, basically the demand for hate outstrips the supply, so they decided that whitelist/blacklist is racist. Its just a power trip, being able to change peoples vocab with nonsense.
They are a trillion dollar company, they can afford to give some slack on this issue that maybe affects 5% of their users
Its honestly not a big deal, its just something to go rename for no good reason. At least for my job, it took about only a couple man-days to get every mention of blacklist/whitelist renamed and the code reviewed.
The bigger deal for me was master branch to main. Broke every pipeline script we had, broke our backups, and it caused not one but two outages in production. I guess its our fault for not making the branch name maintainable, but its never come up before and will never come up again. I honestly think between all the work we put in to that change, we spent a man-year on that. Thats before the production outages. Devops sucks.
At least I got paid to deal with it.
Firefighter is the best of these.
I have joined the war on fire, on the side of fire.
What?
Fire fighters fight fire. Crime fighters fight fire.
The weird one is freedom fighters…
the newer words make way more sense. They actually convey the concept
What makes no sense is the words “white” and “black” as referring to people. People are brown, all of them.
I remember when I tried setting up a server a couple decades ago and I didn’t understand what the difference between a white and black list were. Made no sense to me.
Allow/block can’t be mistaken. It’s literally a better choice of words for many reasons.
I hate that.
With flying they changed NOTAM from notices to airmen to notices to air missions or something.
Calm tf down. Will they change Human to hupersons next? Man-made to huperson-made? GTFO here.
If something so trivial upsets you so deeply in an attempt to make others feel more included, maybe you should look into yourself.
You should probably take your advice and calm down.
Talking with the people involved, at least in my experience, it is an unnecessary adjustment. Nobody “affected” gave a hoot.
Okay, I have to ask: outside of training, did you ever say NOtice To AirMen? I haven’t. It’s always NOTAM for me. They were nice enough to keep the acronym the same.
I suppose that’s a fair point.
Remember when the hopper was going to be the end of free TV?
Okay, I don’t ever see this problem. Using Brave and uBlock origin in Firefox. Maybe just update your filters once in a while?
How did manipulation to make you buy specific shit become so accepted?
If you’re using uBlock Origin. Go to “Filter Lists” and Purge All Caches. That may help.
I occasionally see ads on Youtube. I’m not sure if this is related.
I just did the zap element thing on that warning. So far so good, except you can’t scroll down.
I see this as an absolute win, since that means you don’t have to read YouTube comments.
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Lmao
I imagine they’ll eventually find a way to prevent us from blocking ads. Twitch TV for example has found some ways to make adblock useless.
It’s a shame, and it’s really just a side effect of google racing to the bottom of the adspace game. If ads weren’t as cheap as they are today, they wouldn’t be trying to maximize the amount of users who are forced to see advertisements.
Someone will create an extension to mute the ad and overlay it with suitably timed bite sized cat videos.
Oh, that’s just brilliant! Instead of being interrupted by intrusive ads, I’m seeing videos of fluffy cats doing adorable and funny stuff all the time.
They’ll start banning Google accounts, that’ll stop quite alot of people just because of how many users use gmail or drive.
I don’t think they’ll resort to that because that would mean getting rid of their own source of income. YouTube may not be getting ad revenue, but they still collect data and that’s where the real value is.
You can block ads on Twitch… I use S0undTV on my firesticks and never see ads.
You can block twitch ads. I literally never see them. Use https://github.com/pixeltris/TwitchAdSolutions/blob/master/vaft/vaft.user.js with Tampermonkey.
Also, checkout S0undTV if you use android TV.
I suspect ad blocking will always be an arms race. The server can only ask the client to play the ad, and then rely on the client to truthfully report whether it did so.
It’s only a matter of time before they start embedding them into the video like podcasts do and you won’t be able tell the difference between ad and video with software.
Timestamps can still be voluntarily marked for an auto-skip feature to jump throughthe ads.
Not if YouTube interjects the ad after uploading and the location is randomized.
That’s why there pushing Web Environment Integrity (essentially just DRM for the entire internet)
I’m sure they’ll try to implement some type of DRM BS into the web that allows them. It’s one of the good things about projects like Gemini. I used to think it was only good for the novelty of having a web alternative protocol.
No doubt Big Tech would lobby for Microsoft to use Windows to flag Gemini browsers as malicious and then run FUD campaigns against the Gemini protocol
It still doesn’t stop queueing a few videos ahead of time and watching them though, let it play the ad to noone and just cut it out after
I’m sure they’ll try to implement some type of DRM BS into the web
Funny you say that:
Google is already testing it I think.
Y’all remember when back in the day, Google’s motto was “don’t be evil.” And then at some point somebody told them how much money there was in being evil and then they just pivoted to being a functional parody of a giant evil megacorporation from a cyberpunk novel? Cuz I remember that.
But then you’ll get prompts for “What product did you just watch an ad for?”
They already do this on the YouTube TV app
It’s amazing how many times someone in this thread has joked about Google doing something absurd sounding only for it to already be true.
“Drink verification can.”
You have to be careful with that sort of thing - some percentage of people who do watch the ads will close the tab rather than read the prompt and answer it.
Will to be fair, Google is an ad company. We should have seen this coming.
Worst case scenario I think I’d just resort to downloading the videos to watch. Live videos is the challenge, but luckily I don’t watch live streams.
To be fair, he was talking about live streams, as in watching people in real-time.
That can be a fairly different experience, especially since downloaders don’t grab the chat at the moment. Also for unarchived streams, they can only be downloaded if you are aware and able to download at the time that the stream is still active.
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…temporarily it might help
Can we pin this?
If YouTube premium was $4.99 a month it’d be worth a consideration. But then again adblocking is free and privacy respecting
Originally there was an X. Now I have to wait a few seconds before I can click the X. This pause gives me time to think if I really need to watch this video, which more and more often is turning into a “not really”.
