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Google Chrome will limit ad blockers starting June 2024::The “Manifest V3” rollout is back after letting tensions cool for a year.
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
A year later, Google is restarting the phase-out schedule, and while it has changed some things, Chrome will eventually be home to inferior filtering extensions.
Google’s blog post says the plan to kill Manifest V2, the current format for Chrome extensions, is back on starting June 2024.
The company says: "We expect it will take at least a month to observe and stabilize the changes in pre-stable before expanding the rollout to stable channel Chrome, where it will also gradually roll out over time.
On the high end now for me, Slack is drinking 500MB, while a single Google Chat tab, created by this company that is so concerned about performance, is at 1.5GB of memory usage.
Google is adding a completely arbitrary limit on how many “rules” content filtering add-ons can include, which are needed to keep up with the nearly infinite ad-serving sites that are out there (by the way, Ars Technica subscriptions give you an ad-free reading experience and make a great holiday gift!).
Mozilla’s blog post on the subject promises “Firefox’s implementation of Manifest V3 ensures users can access the most effective privacy tools available like uBlock Origin and other content-blocking and privacy-preserving extensions.”
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Never looked into using firefox but the enshitification has forced me to do so.
awesome browser imo. and i switched back from opera GX
Same
Which is second to the greatest feature, containers!
Why the hell aren’t you on Firefox?
Because bold fonts look weird in Firefox and I have not found a way to change that
That’s new to me. Can you share a screenshot?
Sure, please check the other reply in this comment thread
I did have a strange issue with that in the past, but not any more.
I think it went away after going through the Windows ClearType gubbins again.
Oh god, that menu is the worst shit. I literally downloaded an open source program to tweak it.
I remember trying this as well but it didn’t help, and the problem also exists on Linux
It’s been forever since I last looked, but can’t you actually change what fonts are used from within Firefox directly?
Weird do you have a screen shot you can share? they look fine to me.
Could it be something withyour windows installation?
Here is a picture that demonstrates the problem. On the left is Firefox and on the right Thorium (Chromium). I’ve had this problem on Windows before but now I’m using Linux and it’s the same unfortunately.
Yea, just tested it myself and i have the same problem. but not in choromium.
Weird!
Using DuckDuckGo (Android), which is chromium-based, it has the same problem, all text weights are bolded at the maximum values.
It looks like Firefox is trying to be more respectful of the text weights, when deciding how to bold text.
Here is a picture that demonstrates the problem. On the left is Firefox and on the right Thorium (Chromium).
If I’m understanding that screenshot correctly, it looks like Thorium (Chromium) is ignoring the text values and bolding any of them at the max bolding value, where Firefox respects the text values and bolts off of that just slightly.
To abuse a saying…
Best time to be on Firefox? Yesterday.
Second best? Today.
Does anyone on lemmy use chrome?
I use Chrome, but Firefox on my android phone. I have had ublock origin installed since the beginning. I only really use it because I manage my YouTube and Google accounts through it, and its handy for sending tabs between my macbook and PC, as well as the various other workflow features I’ve come to rely on over the last decade or so.
Though I recently heard this was a feature on Firefox now. I used to use Firefox prior to chrome, about 15 or so years ago. I’ve been intending to switch back recently but haven’t got round to it yet.
sending tabs between my macbook and PC
Firefox can do that too
Yeah, I did say someone recently told me this was a feature. I’ll find some time at the weekend to make the switch, it’s really far past time now I think.
I’m glad to hear that!
Does Vivaldi count? In that case, daily. I did install Firefox recently to try it out again, though.
I use it for some tasks at work that don’t function correctly on Firefox (for whatever reason our local intranet doesn’t play nice with FF) but other than that, I am almost exclusively using Firefox.
Now if someone can come up with a better search engine than Google…
That’s the only reason why I have a Chrome install, sometimes some pages (it’s always store pages) don’t work correctly on Firefox, but that’s becoming more rare.
Why chrome instead of something like chromium?
IT is picky about what I’m allowed to install on their machines.
Yes
🤮
I have Chrome configured as my default browser, armed to the teeth against any possible misbehaviour such as no Javascript. Anything that tries to open a website automatically goes there, and if it wants to work properly has to get onto my whitelist or gets its URL copypasted into Firefox.
I use Firefox as my main browser. It doesn’t seem to like not being my default browser and complains regularly about it, but there’s no way to explain my setup to it so I have to keep saying “no” to the prompt (to be fair it’s only at update time when this happens, and even then it’s occasional so no big deal). JS is on by default but I still have uBO, Enhancer for YT, I don’t care about cookies, and a few other extensions.
I use it for a couple things, although my primary browser is Firefox. I use Google Workspace for my business so I have a Chrome profile set up for that. Another business I’m involved with uses M365. It’s easy to set up another Chrome profile for that. I like to keep work separate from my personal stuff and this setup works well for me.
When making billions isn’t enough there is something wrong with you
Laughs in Firefox
I just can’t get used to Firefox. Last time I tried it (earlier this year), I tried for 2 months. Can’t remember all the reasons, but using the adresbar as calculator and see the results without pressing enter is so ingrained in my way of working. Just alt+d, 2+2 shows the result. Give me something better than that and I’ll give Firefox an other shot.
Edit: lol at my downvotes. That’s what I get for asking a genuine question I guess. People really looove their Firefox here. (me too, but I’m missing some features)
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You can map a keyboard shortcut to the calculator in Windows and have a more robust option no matter what browser you use.
Came here to laugh at this.
It’s roughly a month that I switched to firefox on pc and android and I’ve never been happier!
In other news: Firefox installs are breaking records.
Is that true? I would love for more people to experience Firefox
I want to switch but I really like Vivaldi even though it’s still chromium based…
Vivaldi feels like its filled with bloat tbh.
I was in your same exam position until someone recommended me Floorp. Jump on in, the water is great.
Vivaldi is nice. I don’t just it but I’ve tried it.
This, but computer literacy rather than literal literacy
If only there was an alternative. Some kinda fox. A fox that was set aflame
I wish it was for me, but Chrome is necessary for some work I do.
Edit: very weird I get so many downvotes because I need to use a specific browser. Get out more, please.
So use Chrome for that work, and Firefox plus an adblocker for everything else.
My adblocker works in Chrome at the moment so will see.
Such as?
Platforms I use don’t work reliably with other browsers, online teaching ones to be specific.
Ah, that’s a tough one.
I needed to install Ungoogled Chromium to join lectures, because the remote learning site refused to work in Firefox (wouldn’t be surprised if it was developed against a chrome-specific API)
Pretty much every internal Web application I’ve used in banking, insurance and Govt orgs.
Most of the time the site doesn’t really need chrome, it’s just that’s all they test it with, so they say it’s a requirement.
There’s an addon for Firefox called User-Agent Switcher and Manager that allows you to have Firefox identify itself to websites as chrome (among others), and it often fixes the problem.
I work in IT so I am aware of this. Maybe you’ve not worked in enough places that just build incompatible (cr)apps?
And sure, just go outside our locked down machine policies and install Firefox and unapproved extensions. That will do down well.
Yeah, “most” was probably a bit hyperbolic, especially for internal websites, and I guess it’s no surprise that the sectors you mentioned would be particularly bad for it.
The best place for my little PSA probably wasn’t in response to your post in particular.
Sorry I’m snippy as I have personal stuff going on. You are right in so far as if you have full control of your machine which isn’t the case for the orgs I mentioned.
We can pull FF into our dev environment so I’ve seen these annoying behaviours.
I was doing some work on the social security site and the site i needed wouldn’t even load unless it was chrome or edge. There are sadly too many important website that are somehow allowed to gatekeep browsers. I feel like if their site follows guidelines then there’s no reason they should be restricted from browsers, but here we are.
Have you tried to spoof the user agent ?
I don’t know what that is
It’s a neat trick that’s been around for ages. Your browser presents a string of text to the website to identify itself. “Hi! I’m Chrome_ver_whatever.”
You can easily change it, make your browser lie to the website.
Here’s the extension for Chrome and Edge:
https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/user-agent-switcher-for-c/djflhoibgkdhkhhcedjiklpkjnoahfmg
I’m sure Firefox has the same.
I’m not sure that’s going to fix the technical problems I have.
Here some for Firefox
Edit: …
Yeah, I get “Google bad”, and agree, and am 100% on the Firefox train, but downvoting people for not using FF is kinda stinky.
LoLL
Laughing out loud longitudinally?
Limits of Large Language (model not included)
Languishing Overcooked Linguine, Literally?
I’ve tried switching so many times, most recently yesterday. Every time something just doesnt work or is missing. Yesterday it was stremios web client that refused to show the video that I was simultaneously watching in chrome.
And the fact that Firefox doesnt do tab groups. Such a convenient feature for me, and I couldnt find an extension that did the job. Maybe some of you can help?
Absolutely agree on the tab groups. I don’t get how this is not implemented yet, it’s a basic feature with great impact to usability.
Firefox actually had tab groups way back, but Mozilla, in their infinite wisdom, removed it because apparently their main mission now is to antagonize all their loyal power users.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search/?q=Tab groups
This is definitely a feature that needs to be an addon rather than in core Firefox, as it could easily interfere with users who organise tabs in different ways (e.g. Tree tabs)
Right now there’s no built in options and it could just be deactivated.
Also the add ins I’ve seen still lack chrome’s feature of auto grouping. They just allow me to manually group.
My Firefox does tab groups. Just find an extension
Which extension are you using?
If you refresh it generally works. I’ve had zero issues with it. Not sure though
No amount of refreshing or clearing cookies and cache has helped so far. It just says “video not supported” no matter which file I try to play.
What are you trying to play ? Probably should contact mods. Would be good for them to know. Others will have similar problems.
Do you have add one ? I need to turn off dark mode for some sites as it breaks it. Those are the only issues I’ve had.
It is probably a very specific issue, since I can’t find anyone else that has it, at least not doing the usual google-fu.
When using the Stremio web client, firefox refuses to play anything I throw at it, whereas everything plays fine in the chromium browsers I’ve tried.
No amount of turning extensions off or clearing cache or cookies or refreshing has fixed it so far.
Fire through the link and maybe folk can check it out. I know GeForce now doesn’t work on Firefox and steam doesn’t play nice.
Or, let’s say, a weasel frozen in ice
Or - ohh I don’t know - some kind of frozen bird?
There’s a browser called Glacier Ferret? 🤔
Sorry, I had too.
OMFG Someone pleaae fork FF and make this one a reality
Why would you apologise for that string of masterpieces? It’s marvellous and adorable! Marvorable! Adorallous! Both! 🥰
Those are awesome
As if I’ll have money for discretionary purchases anyway. Fucking idiots.
google chrome will suck my balls
Google Chrome has always been near my taint
Username checks out
thanks reddit
Hi Firefox. It’s been a while…
It shouldn’t have been a while
Eh, when Chrome first came out, Firefox was incredibly clunky and slow in comparison.
At least it was for me, which was why I switched back then.
Google’s YouTube shenanigans earlier this year got me back to Firefox though, and the more Google does crap like this the more I’m thinking my next phone may take me back to the Appleverse.
Why not CustomROMs?
Because I don’t even know what that is?
To put it simply, a “custom ROM” in this context means a modified version of Android. Many of these versions are based on AOSP (Android Open-Source Project), which is still maintained by Google, but is in fact open-source and doesn’t include Google services. Therefore, there is a possibility to use Android phones (given you have one with unlockable bootloader) without any Google apps or account.
I guess I am just past the time where I enjoy…or even am willing to…delve into the way my devices work, run non standard stuff on them, or have some unique setup on them.
I don’t feel like my needs or desires are too awfully picky or niche at this point, I just don’t want my shit to be actively fighting me in day to day function.
When I got my first smart phone, I went Android for the increased options to customize and more hardware and app options.
As time went on, I got to a point where the hardware all sucked compared to iPhone, couldn’t find a phone I liked that did all the things as well as an iPhone, so I switched, trading customize-ability for function.
While that was a trade that worked, I still missed Android as I found the iPhone trying to constantly force me to do things a certain way. And when I went looking for ways to change that, most of the apple community basically said, “If you don’t want to do things the apple way, you’re the one that’s wrong and needs to change”
So after that one, I came right back to Android.
My last phone was pretty good but this one has so many quirks and hardware issues that just the experience of using the phone frustrates me and I’ve only had it a few months.
Not seeing anything else I like on the market, my options seem to be annoyance with hardware, annoyance with software, or annoyance with hardware and fuss with installing non typical software.
I get it, I have a similar situation, except since I came back to Android I have been nothing but happy.
I used to be into running custom stuff on Android before my switch to an iPhone. And I, too, have found it frustrating to be forced to respect Apple’s rules.
Now, however, I have a Pixel 7 and it’s been a perfect experience so far. Running the stock OS non-rooted, it finally feels like my phone.
Yea, i swapped to chrome when it was on the rise, and it was subsantially faster than firefox.
These days i find firefox as fast, or faster.
Yeah I honestly expected some growing pains with the switch but it was a lot smoother than I expected.
Trust me, if you care about what’s happening to Google and YouTube right now, you won’t love what has been happening to Apple and it’s products for the last decade or so.
Why not switch to Linux and FOSS alternatives?
I’ve done Linux desktops, and I fight with them too much. Macos is fine by me. Mad respect for Linux users though.
Non android Linux phones just don’t feel ready.
Comfy leashes I guess.
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I see so many of these comments I can’t help but wonder if it’s an ad campaign by Kagi.
Pretty sure it is, I ended up trying the free trial because of all the yapping. Don’t bother. 99% of the results are the same as ddg.
+1 for ddg, it does everything needed from a search engine without the extra crap, and even if you don’t turn off ads, they’re reasonable and unobtrusive (and they let you turn them off very easily)
It very likely is an Astroturfing campaign to try and get more users.
Step 1: astroturf on lemmy
Step 2:?
Step 3: profit!
Lemmy is a poor choice for astroturfing, not because of small user count but because no one here is going to hesitate from removing their content or banning them from the site. On regular social media you can act like a shill and get downvoted and hated on, but here the punishments are actually handed out, and even if their home instance doesn’t ban them others likely will, effectively crippling said campaign.
These campaigns work on social media services that will protect them due to corporate interest, something that basically doesn’t happen here.
I’ll take your word for it. I discarded that notion years ago.
