“I can see that one of my friends is apparently watching a ton of cheesy, soft porn stuff,” a user said of Plex’s Week in Review email and Discover Together feature.

Many Plex users were alarmed when they got a “week in review” email last week that showed them what they and their friends had watched on the popular media server software. Some users are saying that their friends’ softcore porn habits are being revealed to them with the feature, while others are horrified by the potentially invasive nature feature more broadly.

Plex is a hybrid streaming service/self-hosted media server. In addition to offering content that Plex itself has licensed, the service allows users to essentially roll their own streaming service by making locally downloaded files available to stream over the internet to devices the server admin owns. You can also “friend” people on Plex and give them access to your own server.

A new feature, called “Discover Together,” expands social aspects of Plex and introduces an “Activity” tab: “See what your friends have watched, rated, added to their Watchlist, or shared with you,” Plex notes. It also shares this activity in a “week in review” email that it sent to Plex users and people who have access to their servers.

This has greatly alarmed a wide swatch of Plex’s user base, who have blown up the Plex forums, the Discover Together blog post comment section, and Reddit with posts about disastrous overshares created by the feature. A sampling of posts: “Discover Together and Week in Review emails are a MASSIVE breach of privacy and trust!,” “Security breach: Why is my friend receiving notifications to rate movies I’ve watched?,” “Weekly review emails data leak,” “Plex crossed a line with ‘Your week in review’ emails today.’”

The feature is opt-out, meaning that many people were very surprised to get these emails and see this feature, as it’s up to users to proactively turn it off (instructions here and here).

“I can see that one of my friends is apparently watching a ton of cheesy, soft porn stuff (think classic ‘skinemax’ fare) from some server (it’s not mine) or Plex channel, and I am 100 percent sure they would be mortified to know that I know this,” one user wrote on the Plex Forums. “Now replace this friend, who’s just enjoying their downtime with some cheeky T&A, with a teenager who may be having difficulty figuring out feelings about their sexuality and are just trying to explore by watching LBGT dramas to see if anything there resonates or can help them figure things out. Suddenly, one of their intolerant friends or parents gets a detailed email report with a cheery title listing every little thing they’re watching…This is a dystopian nightmare of a feature and I honestly can’t believe it’s been rolled out as opt-out like this. SHAME ON YOU, PLEX!”

“I wonder how many people just had their week’s porn selections emailed to their Plex friends,” another user posted. “I just got an email about a friend’s watching habits which he definitely didn’t want to share. He insists he’s never opted into any data sharing, but…it went out anyway.”

“I’m sure there’s a certain percentage of people who want to know what kind of porn their grandma likes, but I’m hoping it’s not the majority,” another posted.

Otto Kerner, who is a moderator of the official Plex forums, said that porn viewing habits would only be shared if Plex can make a “match” of the media with online databases like IMDb. “Many pr0n titles are either not listed there at all [sic],” Kerner wrote. It’s worth noting, however, that there are many adult titles on IMDb.

There are hundreds of posts about the issue on the official Plex forums, many of which point out that many Plex users chose to use the service in the first place because it is a “self-hosted” alternative to streaming that many people go into believing they will have more control and privacy than is offered by Hulu, Netflix, and other streaming services. Plex is also used by many users to play and stream files that they have illegally pirated (the ability to do this is largely behind the initial popularity of Plex), though the company has been trying to move away from the perception that most people are using it to play pirated content. “The fact that this data is available to you AT ALL … That is just … Mind boggling, and completely against the very notion of self hosting,” one user wrote. “I feel betrayed that was done without telling me that this data was going to be collected. Let alone acted upon. It’s dangerous. Certain entities would LOVE to have that data…which could mean jail time for some.”

“The ‘See what your friends are watching’ will be great for all the people with secret porn libraries. Or when you start watching a Jan 6th documentary, and you see Aunt Becky start commenting about it being part of a satanic conspiracy,” a commenter on Plex’s blog post announcing the feature wrote. “I can also say that not one person I have talked to has ever liked the idea that I can see what they’re watching from my server.”

Plex did not respond to requests for comment sent from 404 Media. Plex employees have been posting regularly in the forums explaining that people can opt out of the data sharing, and have also said media watch “sync events,” which it uses to track viewing history, do not tell the company the nature of the file played: “There is no way to know whether something being ‘watched’ occurred because you went and saw it at the theater and then marked it on the Discover page when you got home, you watched through a personal Plex Media Server Library, or anything else.”

  • @vortexal@sopuli.xyz
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    31 year ago

    I’ve never heard of Plex until now, what kind of porn does it actually have? I can’t imagine it being any different from Netflix unless they allow some really “hardcore” stuff.

  • Jo Miran
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    41 year ago

    I grew up on Cinemax because we couldn’t afford HBO. Cheesy soft-core porn is my jam and don’t you dare judge me!

    • Ziixe
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      161 year ago

      Yeah, and you don’t even have to use any software, you can just store it in a folder no one would care about, best hidden with a name resembling something boring no one would surely open

      • credit crazy
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        31 year ago

        Also bonus points if you are autistic. A lot of my folders are labeled with acronyms and my porn folder is the only one that is just random letters so it blends right in

      • @Eylrid@lemmy.world
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        271 year ago

        I keep my porn in a folder labeled “taxes” and my tax documents in a folder labeled “porn”

        • @rivalary@lemmy.ca
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          51 year ago

          “in a world where search doesn’t exist, one man, one labrinth of folders he must click through.”

      • @ManOMorphos@lemmy.world
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        51 year ago

        Many have caught onto the “boring name” thing and will click on any folder with a mundane name even slightly out of place. Encrypted ZIP files still work though, lol.

        • @Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
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          11 year ago

          Encrypted ZIP files still work though, lol.

          Unless you put them on Google in which case Google will break the encryption and look inside.

          • @ManOMorphos@lemmy.world
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            21 year ago

            Absolutely true. Best practice is to assume your Google Drive is effectively public regardless of permissions. It is very easy for a Drive to get hacked in my experience, not even considering the surveillance from Alphabet.

        • Ziixe
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          11 year ago

          I was just referring to the homework folder stereotype, i wouldn’t be that stupid to do something like this

  • @Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works
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    11 year ago

    How much does it cost to Pirate instead and not have to worry about this stupid fucking shit?

    That’s not a real question. If you can’t tell. ARGH!

    • @mertn@lemmy.world
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      181 year ago

      I am trying to do the same migration from plex to jellyfin but jellyfin keeps crashing on the server with ‘out of memory’ in the logs. As soon as I can stabilize that I will dump Plex lifetime. I initially had sync server setting turned on in Plex and Plex kept sending cleartext phone SMS about what I had watched the day before. That is turned off now. I asked Plex corp for a copy of my data. They sent it to me but ‘forgot’ to send the database table with watch history. They sent me that table when I complained it was missing. Fuck Plex and their spyware.

    • @Un4@lemm.ee
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      91 year ago

      I tried jellyfin a year ago and could not switch as it did not have transcoded downloads feature. All of my library is 4k HDR and do not want to download dozens of gb of movies on my phone when traveling. Do you know by any chance that they have implemented this feature already?

        • @Un4@lemm.ee
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          131 year ago

          Lol, I won’t be using ffmpeg commands while I’m on holiday traveling and just want to watch a movie. It is faster just to download it from a torrent lower quality directly than jump through these hoops. And if I am doing that, why do then I need a media center anyway, I can just go back to the old days playing downloaded files directly.

          The only thing holding me in plex is transcoded downloads.

      • atocci
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        21 year ago

        Debilitating? I dunno, I don’t do anything too advanced with it but it plays my BluRay rips fine.

        • @spikespaz@programming.dev
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          11 year ago

          It often stops working when I try to scrub too much. Fast forwarding goes too far (randomly multiples) on Android (Google TV) and Firefox. Subtitles just do not sync, no matter what I try. I’m really lucky to get a movie with good subtitles. It can’t fetch metadata while a VPN is active. Jellyfin is garbage and I maintain that.

    • @Owljfien@iusearchlinux.fyi
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      11 year ago

      It hasn’t been fixed to my knowledge but it seems to be happening to be far less frequently, I wouldn’t exactly call it hot garbage like the other commenter

    • atocci
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      Oh is that a known issue? I had it happen for the first time yesterday. Had to reload the page, but it fixed it.

  • @Cagi@lemmy.ca
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    Plex isn’t another evil tech company, it’s just full of stupid features and unresolved bugs. Jellyfin just isn’t good enough to replace it yet; it’s more finicky to setup, isn’t as good as matching titles and displaying the metadata, and has fewer features. But it is catching up fast.

    • Jamie
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      71 year ago

      The title matching is what made me go to Plex. Some shows were impossible to get sorted right on Jellyfin. Plus there’s a lot more ecosystem around Plex

      • Gabagoolzoo
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        It’s not impossible, you just need to name your files correctly. I haven’t had a single issue with either Jellyfin or Plex. Used both for many years.

      • @Player2@sopuli.xyz
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        61 year ago

        Out of curiosity, what sort of challenges did you have with setting up shows in jellyfin? I’ve been working with it and haven’t encountered any issues yet

        • Jamie
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          21 year ago

          The issue, I think, was because most of what I use it for is anime. So some shows wanted the Japanese title, others wanted the English title, some couldn’t be found at all. My US TV shows and movies never had that problem.

    • @surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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      381 year ago

      I set up jellyfin by pointing the prebuilt docker container to my media folder. And it just kinda worked.

      Not saying your wrong, just that it wasn’t my experience.

      • @0ops@lemm.ee
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        11 year ago

        Same. For my needs (streaming 4k HDR over the LAN), Plex and jelleyfin have been basically equivalent

      • @Cagi@lemmy.ca
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        Fair enough. I had to manually add my server a few times before it stuck. When it got working, many shows were mismatched or no title matches were found, some shows had rogue seasons as their own entries, and the entire design philosophy seems less together. All that said, these are just growing pains of newer software. I have no doubt I will genuinely prefer how Jellyfin works one day.

      • @isles@lemmy.world
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        11 year ago

        Agreed, I had been putting off trying Jellyfin until Plex kept having issues with my Chromecast. I sat down and prepared myself for an ordeal and it just wasn’t that.

        There are different issues with it casting that Plex didn’t have, but it hasn’t balked at any of my media yet.

    • archomrade [he/him]
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      131 year ago

      It’s not evil, it’s just for-profit.

      If there’s money to be made by implementing a feature, they have incentive to do it, even if it actively makes the product worse. So long as it doesn’t make you leave, or rather, so long as it doesn’t make enough users leave that it negates the profit incentive.

      A lot of people chose to use a self-hosted server to get AWAY from that tendency

  • @MetricIsRight@lemmy.ca
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    41 year ago

    Just in case anyone is looking to have their adult content streamable but kept separate from Plex/Jellyfish etc check out Stash, really easy to spin up a container. Works well, bit rough around the edges though.

  • @kaitco@lemmy.world
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    461 year ago

    That’s why Jellyfin exists, though admittedly, it was a little more difficult for me to set up the sharing than I would have preferred. Now, I’m up and running, so all is well.

    Heck, Emby is still an option if you don’t want a fully open-sourced one. Plex has been steadily moving in this direction for at least the last year or so, which makes me surprised at folks’ surprise over their “privacy” with Plex.

    • Redhotkurt
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      Lol this really sucks for Plex users, but I’m glad I left that steaming pile of shit software. I’ve been using Jellyfin for two years now and have never had to deal with sudden new shitty default-on features that appear from out of nowhere. Not once. With Plex, that happened like every other release. I don’t miss it.

    • @Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      51 year ago

      Once you get the reverse proxy or a vpn set up, you are golden.
      I had more issues setting up old cartoons with Airing vs DVD ordering…

  • @Snapz@lemmy.world
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    831 year ago

    Listen when companies SCREAM at you that they are intentionally ruining their service and selling you out. This is Plex saying very clearly to the public, “it’s been fun y’all, but it’s time for you to find an alternative service, start migrating NOW because it’s only going to get worse from here”

    • @flop_leash_973@lemmy.world
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      Sadly some people won’t get the message until Plex starts providing their movie streaming habits on request to the RIAA for lawsuits.

      Edit: I meant MPAA, not RIAA (though they are probably giving it to them as well).

    • @FluffyPotato@lemm.ee
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      71 year ago

      Still the only self-hosted option that has a native app for my old ass TV so I’m not switching until it becomes more trouble than it’s worth or my TV breaks.

      • Dave.
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        Don’t worry too much about it going to waste.

        What usually happens next is that your “lifetime licence” turns into an “ohhhh that’s a licence for the OLD system. We’ve introduced Plex Ultimate 2000! It’s got all these great new features, and it’s only $3.95 a month. Don’t worry, we won’t forget our greatest supporters, whoever has a lifetime licence for the worn out, old system, their first year’s subscription will be 25 percent off, yaay!”

  • Queen HawlSera
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    41 year ago

    Any cheesy softcore that involves breast expansion… asking for a friend, who wants to watch porn with me.

  • Astro
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    41 year ago

    So, obviously this is a very bad thing to happen to Plex; however there is a secret/locked library functionality iirc from using it before.

  • Phoenixz
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    381 year ago

    Hello jellyfin my old friend!

    Anytime I feel that jellyfin isn’t ready yet, I am so SO happy that I’m not using Plex and I notice that jellyfin is pretty awesome

  • @GlitzyArmrest@lemmy.world
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    01 year ago

    Is this any different than server admins using Tautulli? I’d assume so, since it’s happening for users with multiple servers.

    Privacy issues aside, who is using Plex for porn? There’s many better options tailored to that type of content specifically. I’m not sure what benefit you’d get from using Plex for porn.