Reddit has been commodified and monetized too much at this point. It was a great platform for niche interests for so long, but all the good internet stuff is on forums, discord servers, patreon, youtube, etc now. Twitter/X and Insta are even more productive content producers than reddit is. Reddit used to have this reputation for authenticity, but that gradually died out over the last 5-7 years and it’s now just another shitty “online community.” It still has activity but not much happens on reddit anymore, it’s just a site where people post links to other sites and comment on them. A lot of the negatives about reddit as a platform also apply to lemmy but at least it’s open source and nonprofit.
All those Discord communities are gonna have a bad time once their investors start wanting some of that money back.
They already are. Some projects used Discord a file host even if they have a page on GitHub or similar services that allows you to package up releases, and Discord is now making it so you can’t just hotlink to them anymore.
Well the CCP are the biggest single investor with tencent owning over 40% of discord, which is why it has zero encryption or security, they are getting their money’s worth by now having access to shit loads of data to mine, manipulate and train ais with, and we have done jack shit to prevent it, I think discord is the second largest social media platform now.
Discord doesn’t have e2e but they have standard ssl/tls, “zero encryption or security” would be completely unusable.
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Where’s Jeeves when you need him? 🤡
I only use HotBot.
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They threaten to saw the branch they sit on.
Btw, greed and jealousy are cancers that eat the brain.
I literally only go to Reddit for videogame questions. I know most normal people only head there when they have specific questions.
You know, the people they can actually show ads to?
The moment they do this Reddit will collapse.
Very much doubt it but they will lose a lot of causal trade page hits. A lot of finding solutions to things is why I end up.on Reddit now as it only useful result in Google.
But the vast amount of people using it as social.media will stay
It won’t just be this but it’ll be things like this, further monetization schemes, and eventually killing old.reddit that are gonna keep chipping away at their faithful userbase.
I’m surprised they haven’t killed old reddit after all this other BS yet, tbh.
They can see the numbers for new shit reddit and old reddit. They haven’t gotten rid of it because it probably still has a ton of traffic that can display ads. It’s extremely obvious that they fucked up with the new design just because the old one has been around for so long
That’s because all the admins are using old.reddit themselves.
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Spez is an arrogant prick.
Exactly, Google search itself is so enshittified you pretty much have to tag “reddit” at the end of every query to find any solution to a problem. Even my 55yr boss knows this and he’s clueless about anything social media related.
Having tons of Google traffic to any company in would be a godsend, yet Reddit wants to ban it. What a fucking joke.
Reddit’s search can’t be enshitified because it’s never been good.
i never thought i would say this, but at this point bing seems to be a better search engine than google
I can not recommend duckduckgo enough. Been using it for a while now and it’s so nice to not have the top 5 or so results just be ads, and the rest irrelevant.
I’ve been looking for a better search engine lately. DDG results seem to be nearly the same as Bing results. I.e. still not that great, though has better privacy policies. IDK why search engines don’t de-rank listicles, extremely long recipe pages, pages with tons of ads, etc. Major search engines are so bad now, it seems like it would be relatively easy for a startup to overtake them. I guess there’s a large barrier of entry due to the infrastructure needed to crawl the entire internet and store indexes.
That’s because DDG gets some links from Bing and Yahoo as well.
And bangs! They make it so that ddg is the only sensible choice for default search.
If I need to search on google for some reason, I can just append !g. If I want to look for Youtube videos, I append !yt. I can even search for grocery prices directly with !appie.
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fuck this bruh. google search is worthless and adding reddit to a search query was the only way to make it bearable…
anyone know any good alternatives? maybe some search catalogue with multiple sources including a reddit scrape?
It’s not free, but not expensive. You are not the product. They have catalog-like search and curated results.
Kagi is goat.
My favorite feature is their universal summarizer. It can even do videos and podcasts
I just learned last month about Kagi and I’m never going back to Google.
I am really liking Kagi.
catalog-like search what’s that?
It allows you to search a collection of sources for information. Maybe you want to search a group of 20 tech blogs that you trust, just as one example.
Before Google, this was a common technique used by search engines to direct users to trusted content sources.
The only thing google search is good for anynore is recipies. Thebonly good product they make anymore is maps.
Duckduckgo isnt much better.
Even their recipe search is abysmal
Look up something like schnitzel and you’ll have 7 paragraphs of AI slop, telling you about the author, the history of the dish, the weather, a new cookbook for sale, before you get to the actual recipe
Honestly sometimes duck duck go gives me better results
I use duck as my first choice, but unless I’m just looking up one word, it doesn’t find much useful. If I look for a specific question, duck doesn’t work at all and I have to go back to google. google is way worse than it used to be, but it’s still better than any other I have found yet.
I very rarely go back to google but at least it’s very easy to do with bangs “!g [search Query]”
I guess the times duckduckgo works better for me is when I’m looking for answers Google is able to identify, but chooses to filter out, like in psychedelic trip reports
Reddit is only good for solutions though search results but do it anyway. Make it worse and worse until people start looking for alternatives.
Is somebody going to tell them?
They must’ve noticed an uptick in Google traffic. I’ve stopped using reddit for fun and only as a means to find solutions through search engine.
Starting to wish yahoo answers would come back.
Google has started adding a Reddit search filter to some searches.
That’s because it’s so impossible to find anything I’d use on a normal Google search that you have to add “Reddit” to your search to find anything relevant.
Of course, post-API debacle, a fair amount of the responses you’d have needed are deleted, but ya know…
No way, is this real? Seems like it would be a huge news story. Has Google ever had a specific search filter for a third-party website?
It’s absolutely real. “Adding Reddit to Google searches to actually find useful information” isn’t a meme, it’s what people are really doing. And since Google has (allegedly) killed search operators, it’s the only way to cut through the uselessness that Google search has become. Although, I do have a sneaking suspicion it’s actually added by whatever AI they have on their backend that generates “useful” filters, not something Google itself directly added.
Starting to wish yahoo answers would come back.
If only we knew how good we had it back then.
Starting to wish yahoo answers would come back.
Fuck, I miss trolling in Yahoo answers.
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Those were probably genuine, clueless people being clueless. For trolling you don’t ask “am I pregnant?”, you ask “I’m pregnant and [my brother | my dog | I don’t know who] is the father, what should I do?”.
The original headline had Reddit “flatly deny” claims they were walling off their site to those who weren’t logged in. Lmao, the company lied about the API and lied about Christian (Apollo’s dev), of course they’re going to lie about whether they’ll wall off their site. Especially since the CEO is influenced by Elon who has walled Twitter off.
they’re really trying to kill Reddit aren’t they
I just had to check, reddit isn’t publicly traded yet. My best explanation was that spez had a strawman short 200x the amount of reddit stocks and then run the site so hard into the ground that even Musk would go whoa and Malagassy geophysicists would be getting strange readings on their seismographs.
Now? No, they’re not actively trying to kill reddit. It’s the classic case of someone who got lucky with a startup and didn’t hand it off before crashing it.
They should have IPOd in 2020, like everyone else did, but they didn’t. Why is anyone’s guess. Greed, skeletons in the closet, or whatever, doesn’t really matter, they missed the boat
He did hand it off. Then he clawed his way back in amid the Ellen Pao stuff and it’s generally been going downhill the whole time.
They have is ways to socialize online (reddit, Twitter, fb) and then people realized they could use them as a tool for good. They could organize, spread the word about bad companies and people, encourage others to do good, and so on. People could even turn on the platforms when those platforms corrupted.
So yeah, the billionaires in control don’t like it that we have ready ways to call them out. Elon was pissed about people tracking their flights on Twitter and bought the platform and it’s running it into the ground. Why not. He loses nothing and gains everything.
I think we’ll see this happen a lot more. Billionaires control everything and then we act surprised when they shut people out that expose them.
Paired up with Governments around the world realizing “oh shit, the masses can easily organize and turn against us”… Here Elon, buy this platform and toast it, we’ll make sure you’re compensated, bro.
I don’t think that’s what happened, with Twitter at least.
Elon pissed off the wrong people at the SEC and FTC playing stupid pump and dump games with stocks by using Twitter and his absurdly undeserved reputation as an unconventional super genius with his mega group of followers.
One of the biggest of these, was pumping and then dumping twitter stock by alleging that he’d buy the company. And the people he’d pissed off in government basically saw their opportunity to fuck him by literally forcing him to buy it at his stupidly overpriced valuation - that’s why he played all sorts of dumb games dragging out the purchase and trying to get out of it.
And so now he’s stuck with an unprofitable company he didn’t want. I’m pretty sure he’s running it into the ground on purpose so he’ll be able to carry that loss balance forward eternally, using it to get out of paying taxes by writing off the loss.
My theory is that reddit just doesn’t make enough money to stay open without external funding, and as they started running out of that they desperately hired anyone they thought could make the company enough money to stay afloat.
And the dumbass ideas we keep seeing from them are the result of that. Anything to get a buck, no matter what it means to the user experience.
I think its about their plan to go public and some hedge fund bros told them if they want a sugar daddy then they have to implement more agressive ads and subscription fees to juice valuation. I hope it massively backfires.
Unfortunately reddit , twitter etc will never die. There will always be a subset that will keep using the platform no matter what. The only thing that can kill it is when company starts making huge loss without any user base but that’s a slow death until the said subset stops using it.
Yeah, however small the user base, they still have value. Even in a worst-case—Chapter 7—situation, somebody would buy the names and logos.
Even in a worst-case—Chapter 7—situation, somebody would buy the names and logos.
imagine this happens and then the Reddit codebase turns out to be too much work to maintain so it just becomes a Lemmy/Kbin/similar instance lol
Alternatively they could get bought by Google and be sunsetted within six months because the devs got bored.
do Reddit admins think they have any kind of search function without using Google and site:reddit.com?
The only time i use reddit is when googling things
Tbh Reddit and Google need to disappear.
