You forgot Spotify
Wait what are the big gripes with the Spotify UI? It works well for my purposes so genuinely curious
I’ve been using Spotify since it came out and I’m starting to feel it’s time to move on soon. My main gripe is that the UI is getting less user-focused and more interested in pushing content and shitty social media-like features. It’s getting bloated and annoying. Plus of course whatever major labels are pushing gets weighted in search results and recommendations. Just a few days ago I got a marketing pop-up (“what QUESTION would you like music to answer for you?!”) which feels like the last straw. I paid for premium, I know what I want to listen to, just get out of the way. And if you absolutely must have some shitty “reels/shorts”, give me the option to turn them off. (I see my kids wanting to listen to a song, getting distracted by some crappy flashing video, swiping around for a while, then exiting the app out of boredom. Luckily they have parents that can help them understand music from a different perspective than 20-second endorphin flashes.)
I guess I’ll just go to Bandcamp full time and piracy if I want to listen to something before I buy a physical copy.
One of my daughter’s favorite songs is 32-seconds long.
It’s called “I Like Short Songs” and it’s by the Dead Kennedys and it’s on their album Give Me Convenience or Give Me Death, recorded in 1979. She laughed really hard when she first heard it and has loved it ever since.
Short punk songs have been around for a long time.
Well yes, that’s not really what I’m talking about here. I play old HC albums around the house all the time, though they don’t really like screaming vocals (perhaps that’ll change with puberty…). It’s more the zeitgeist of just hearing 20-second snippets of songs and skipping around that’s problematic to me. It fosters an ADD mindset for everyone, not just kids.
I guess that’s not a thing my kid does. She listens to songs in their entirety.
Mine do too, most of the time. I’m trying to make a point about what kind of user behavior spotify UI (and similar apps) encourage and that it’s not a good thing, for kids or adults or for music in general.
Fair enough.
“Rick Wakeman eat your heart out!”
You’re raising her right
20-second endorphin flashes.
your kids are into Grindcore?
Not yet, though I play some Napalm Death or Brutal Truth records now and then to sneak it in there
I still dont understand why they had to make playlists/albums/artists/etc “filters” or hashtags or whatever you call them, and blend all the different types of items in a single page…
Bro Spotify is number one there.
Discord’s UI is bad?
Discord user of 5 years, use it daily, I’ve had the update for a week or more, and I’m still fumbling with buttons to find what I’m looking for. It’s really badly done.
The mobile app
mobile app is super bad.
Steams is bad too.
All these services had decent, simple, sleek UIs.
and then some dumb motherfucker came in and was all “K.I.S.S.? Whats that? We don’t need that trash! Lets make it flashy and stupid and annoying to use!”
Steam is wildly bad. Why the hell is Library Downloads and Library… library the same tab but under different drop down? It makes zero fucking sense.
How is it bad? Works pretty well for me.
Discord’s UI in general is not the best in the world but I wouldn’t necessarily call it bad.
How do I get to my messages? Who knows?! How do I see the people on the server that used to be an easy swipe away?
They changed functionality. I don’t mind a refresh, but they actually got rid of things and moved them around. It’s really annoying to use.
How do I get to my messages?
Just click on the messages button in the buttom bar.
How do I see the people on the server that used to be an easy swipe away?
Click on the top bar when in a server.
Could the UI improve? Yes absolutely. But people are very overdramatic.
There was recently an update to the mobile app that was very poorly received
Steam, tho?
I remember the first day I got on Discord. My friend said, “it’s like IRC.” Yeah, the chat part. Once I figured out how the fuck I could get to the place to chat with my friend.
You forgot Quora. That site used to be semi-useful. These days I can never tell whether I’m reading an actual answer to the question or just some random recommended post that’s been shoved in in between.
It turned into Yahoo Answers when JBP promoted it.
Right? Whenever I go on Quora I have to double-check whether the response I’m reading is actually the answer or just another post
I think Quora is on another level. It’s a weird zombie site these days
Tbh Youtube UI feels great
I just started TemTem and the UI there is just CLUNKY.
If the aim is to drive users towards brainless engagement with arbitrary content, they’re great.
But for UX they’re dogwater.
YouTube isn’t even following material design 3…
Discord was a train wreck from the off
Not sure where the discord hate is coming from (besides the new mobile app). If you’re someone who has to use Teams for work, surely you’d kill to switch to Discord instead.
I honestly like the new mobile experience. It seems more tidy.
When people say that it’s “literally unusable” I’m like “what the fuck were you using it for?”
Imo it was unusable when the new UI just came out. It was sluggish af, and would take significantly longer to cold start.
I still don’t like how a lot of buttons that used to be easily accessible from pretty much anywhere are now behind submenus or flyouts or whatever, but at least it’s usable now.
Yeah they had a bad rollout of the new UI but now it’s okay. Not great but I’ve seen far worse
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Thank god someone mentioned Teams. I don’t have it on mobile anymore, but the desktop app is insane.
I have always hated discord’s interface. Just because something else is worse doesn’t give Discord a free pass.
What do you use? Skype, teamspeak, mumble, ventrillo were all blown out of the water by discord imo, except for niche things like the whisper feature on ts for large groups
Discord, cause everyone is there. Curse Voice had it stomped by miles, any chat room had the chatroom feature beat, anyone could design a better UI, but it has everything in the same place, and I think being free and custom bots gave it critical mass.
Doesn’t mean it’s good.
The secret ingredient is enshittification.
None of those have such a bad UI, if you think those are bad then you probably never had to use atrocious apps for work!
Sounds like Stockholm syndrome if you ask me. Reddit UI is definitely terrible, especially on mobile. YouTube and Discord are marginally better but seem to be busy trying to find new ways to make it worse every other week.
Spotify should also be on that list BTW.
Well probably reddit is worst but on pc I use RES for Reddit and on mobile I used Reddit Relay now I don’t use Reddit on mobile anymore cause the official app I consider dog shit. That’s the reason I’m on lemmy now!
I make the atrocious apps for work.
Let me tell you, every out of place button or weirdly niche function placed prominently on the main screen is the fault of some bastard who won’t buy the system from us until it’s just as ugly as their old system, and they’ve got just enough money for us to have to give a fuck about it.
No you don’t when I say proprietary I don’t mean the company hire a different company to make the app, I mean dog shit apps done by the company dev team that does not care at all about how it looks and just care to be functional. Some of those UI are so atrocious that some of the team members rather do api calls through terminal then use them!
Haha, you think those are bad? Try any professional tools, like CAD’s, DAW’s, or 3d modelling software.
Or, even worse, any internal corporate software, the bigger and the older the company is, the better… at being the worst, that is.
Or. actually, just go to an any airline’s office to buy a ticket and witness the atrocity they have on their monitors. No, those are not blue screens of death. That bunch of gibberish is the actual UI. And the only way to interact with it is by typing in commands that read like something that Lovecraftian creatures would sound like.
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I haven’t tried many CAD softwares but AutoCAD has really intuitive UI. I used to be able to find most things by just thinking what tab it should be based on what it is. It actually inspired me to learn better programming and software design to make something intuitive. I haven’t used it in years since I came to Linux so as long as they haven’t changed it.
Are you a zoomer? Command line is way better than a billion little buttons
Those systems are so much faster and more reliable than the bubbly shit we have now. All that crap on the screen is what we call “information density.” It’s designed for people who work with it several hours a day and understand it, not for some random to be able to learn in 15 minutes. It has a longer learning curve, but is way more efficient in the end.
I agree. That stuff tends to be much more stable than the newy swipe-and-drag interfaces. These designs are basically unbreakable. I dig that so.
Command line isn’t actually bad UI for professionals. It’s way faster than using a mouse.
Command line isn’t bad, but that isn’t quite it. It’s a terminal, but not really command line, think more like htop as compared to gnu utils. And they use it not because it’s efficient, but because it dates back to where there was no other option. It’s extremely convoluted, and if you’ve ever had problems with airlines before (mainly baggage) - chances are, it’s because somebody messed something up in this system.
Anyone who thinks that these three have the worst UI possible has never had to deal with a really bad UI. Try Sharepoint on for size. Or Azure. Or Jira. And there’s likely still way worse stuff than those.
I hate sharepoint so much.
For a tool whose purpose is to share stuff, I sure have a hard time finding things in it.
Azure is so bad!
Jira got too useful for its own good.
Microsoft stuff is always … very consistently microsoft lol it almost feels like they tried too hard to make it looks simple on the surface, and then ended up shoving all the rest randomly in drawers/cabinets/boxes/wherever…
Amazon:
its been a while since i last saw this meme
