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tweet by Johann Hari: The core of addiction is not wanting to be present in life, because pour life is too painful a place to be. This is why imposing more pain or punishment on a person with an addiction problem actually makes their addiction worse.

  • @Syrc@lemmy.world
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    -41 year ago

    I’m not really sold on that. Drug addicts are victims and shouldn’t be penalized but drug dealers definitely deserve jail.

    • @Obi@sopuli.xyz
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      21 year ago

      I never met a junkie that didn’t also sell at least a bit to help pay for the habit. I get what you mean, some dealers/orgs are obviously bad people and often these aren’t even addicts at all to their own product, but where do you draw the line.

      • @Syrc@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        That’s why I think it’s a difficult thing to handle.

        My opinion would be something like this (though it’s probably very flawed as I just thought of it on the spot and I’m not extremely knowledgeable on the subject):

        Are you positive to a drug test? Are you willing to cooperate on where did you get them?

        Yes-Yes: Confiscation and advice to go to a rehab center

        Yes-No: Confiscation and advice to go to a rehab center unless it’s a repeat offense, in that case I’d force the rehab center

        No-Yes: Just confiscation

        No-No: I’m assuming you’re the dealer, jail

        • @RaoulDook@lemmy.world
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          31 year ago

          How about fuck all that, and just leave people alone?

          If they aren’t harming anyone, leave them the fuck alone unless they ask for help.

              • @Syrc@lemmy.world
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                11 year ago

                What would you consider a “hard drug” that isn’t harmful? Isn’t its very definition a way to distinguish them from soft drugs which are less harmful?

                  • @Syrc@lemmy.world
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                    11 year ago

                    Shrooms are a valid argument, I’ve seen them categorized as both. I was more talking about stuff that is pretty much universally deemed a “hard drug”, like cocaine, heroin, ecstasy or meth.

        • @Kanda@reddthat.com
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          31 year ago

          I just found these drugs on you, which you are obviously using. How’d you like to pee in a cup while a creepy, uniformed man watches your dingdong intensely?

          • @Syrc@lemmy.world
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            -41 year ago

            If you don’t want to be watched by a creepy uniformed man you can come to the police station and do it in the toilet.

            Or just, not do stuff that’s illegal. If people nowadays still do it knowing they risk jail, risking a brief uneasy situation seems way less threatening.

      • @Syrc@lemmy.world
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        -31 year ago

        If it’s illegal in that country, yes.

        It should be legal everywhere, but if you’re selling it where it isn’t you’re still breaking the law. Iirc most countries that have it legal also have a lot of regulations on it so selling it in a random back alley without certification would still be a crime.

        • @lolcatnip@reddthat.com
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          11 year ago

          So what, I’m a victim of an evil drug dealer if I buy weed in Texas but I’m just a satisfied customer if I buy weed in Washington?

          You’re engaging in the circular logic of thinking illegal things are bad because they’re illegal and they need to stay illegal because they’re bad. You need to understand the laws have no inherent moral value, and nothing is bad simply because it’s illegal.

          • @Syrc@lemmy.world
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            11 year ago

            They don’t need to stay illegal, I explicitly said they shouldn’t.

            But if you’re buying it in Texas you’re likely doing it from a backalley random anonymous guy who takes no accountability and might give you who-knows-what mixed with it. I’d say in those circumstances even selling apples should be illegal.

            It’s like comparing prescription Xanax to smuggled benzos from India.