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tweet by Johann Hari: The core of addiction is not wanting to be present in life, because pour life is too painful a place to be. This is why imposing more pain or punishment on a person with an addiction problem actually makes their addiction worse.

  • @charliespider@lemmy.world
    -22•1 year ago

    don’t suffer any problems from it, and don’t do anyone any harm.

    This right here is called denile. Nobody rocking some form of white powder is doing so without causing harm somewhere. Sure, maybe that’s the case because they are just getting started and their frequency of usage has yet to become problematic, but given time, the white powders will take over. As well, there are a ton of people who just enjoy drugs will swear up and down that they are in control and don’t have a problem, so again, denile.

    I’m pro decriminalization because it reduces harm but your comment is pure ignorance.

    EDIT Just to clarify, my comment is not aimed at weed

    EDIT 2 add shrooms to the not so harmful list

    EDIT 3 I find it ironic that someone else posted this today: https://lemmy.world/post/7421035

    • sweetviolentblush
      2•1 year ago

      I originally posted a response listing my experiences with a variety of drugs, but then I saw you’re just calling everyone who disagrees with you a drug user in “denile” so I figure there’s really no point, is there? You clearly don’t want a discussion unless it’s in agreement with you. This is your immovable soapbox and no ones reality is gonna change your ignorant stance. So enjoy yelling at the clouds I guess.

      Also, it is denial. It’s not spelled like the dad joke. “Why didn’t the Egyptian know he was drowning?” “He was in De-Nile”

      • @charliespider@lemmy.world
        -1•1 year ago

        Are shrooms a white powder? Pretty sure I clearly singled out white powders. I guess other parts of my comment might make it sound like an absolute blanket statement, but I shouldn’t have to reiterate that condition in every sentence.

    • BlanketsWithSmallpox
      3•1 year ago

      … People are shot weekly where I live over spats about weed and money. The southern cartels deal heavily in weed and murder swaths of people over it still. Hell Avocadoes led to hundreds-thousands of deaths in Mexico over the last five years.

      Let’s not pretend that the drugs that make people money are the ones that fuel deaths.

      It’s why we need to legalize all drugs, and decriminalize all drugs.

      The amount of denial pot smokers have is ridiculous yes, but don’t give them an out like they aren’t contributing their drop of water into that overflowing bucket.

      • @charliespider@lemmy.world
        -7•1 year ago

        Great points, and I agree with legalization as well as decriminalization (despite only listing the latter in my first comment).

        My edit regarding weed was simply because it just doesn’t belong in the same category as “the white powders”, which are destructive on a whole other level.

        My down votes are indicative of the denial that too many drug users exhibit.

        • @CurlyMoustache@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3•1 year ago

          My down votes are indicative of the denial that too many drug users exhibit.

          No, they aren’t. Most people think your arguments are wrong and awful.

        • @null@slrpnk.net
          7•1 year ago

          My down votes are indicative of the denial that too many drug users exhibit.

          The irony is that you’re in denial that you simply made a bad take.

          • @Welt@lazysoci.al
            0•1 year ago

            We should have learnt this by now - that chastising people with a bad take, even by something seemingly as innocuous as mass downvoting, actually tends to cause people to hang on to their beliefs harder because they’re being attacked for those very beliefs. It causes them to harden and somehow paradoxically confirms they were right all along. Our brains do unintuitive things quite often!

          • Gloomy
            -1•1 year ago

            Nobody bothered to give any arguments against it tough…?

        • @ToxicWaste@lemm.ee
          4•1 year ago

          Since ppl obviously disagree with your view - here is some anectodal counter evidence:

          When i was younger and went out often, I had a close friend group of like-minded ppl. In that group we experimented with different drugs. The most common one was probably MDMA in pill form, but we had things that where in powder, liquid, crystal and organic form. For new drugs we read up and usually had a trip sitter, all our stuff went through the lab - so we knew what actually was in there. In our high time, we had a trip every weekend and a comming down with some weed. I know for a fact that we did not harm anyone else. Did we harm our bodies? Possibly, but for sure less than smoking tobacco for the same period and frequency would have. Did we develop an addiction? I can’t speak for the others, but i know i did not. And those i am still in contact with have a clean and organized life now.

          It will be extremely easy for you, to simply say ‘denial’ and not take in what i wrote. But trust me when i say i know what an addiction is. During my time in the military i developed an addiction to alcohol. I am fine now, but i know how it is to be dependent on a substance and i know how it is to look back at it.

          • @charliespider@lemmy.world
            3•1 year ago

            Thanks for the great response

            all our stuff went through the lab - so we knew what actually was in there.

            I too was friends with an organic chemist. We were luckier than most to have that kind of insight available